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=Chat History with Seems like another "just in time learning moment.. (#budtheteacher/$chrislehmann;5fb899ee010bee1)= Created on 2007-09-25 01:04:05.

2007-09-25
Bud Hunt: 00:26:57Seems like another "just in time learning moment," doesn't it?Chris Lehmann: 00:27:04ya think?Darren Kuropatwa: 00:27:16Hi guys!Chris Lehmann: 00:27:25Mr. K -- how are you, my friend?Bud Hunt: 00:27:32been one or two of those weeks - in another month, we might be too busy to work, what with all the learning going on.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:27:36I've been drowning ... coming up for air. ;-)Chris Lehmann: 00:27:45yeah... I know that feeling. both of them.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:27:49Has it been a month?Darren Kuropatwa: 00:27:53yiles! Chris Lehmann: 00:27:53Bud... can you invite Jeff U.?Chris Lehmann: 00:27:58I know!Chris Lehmann: 00:28:22there we go.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:28:23Hiya Jeff.Bud Hunt: 00:28:34mornin' JeffJeff Utecht: 00:28:36Hey guysDarren Kuropatwa: 00:28:42Mornin'Chris Lehmann: 00:28:43o.k. -- aside from the fact that we're a bunch of white guys... this could be a HELL of a panel.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:28:50:DBud Hunt: 00:29:06I'm willing to change, if it'll help.Jeff Utecht: 00:29:10I'd love to do it! And you mean I'd actually get to meet Darren!Chris Lehmann: 00:29:12And yeah, there's no reason it couldn't be a spotlight panel. :)Darren Kuropatwa: 00:29:18I could paint my face. How does purple sound?Bud Hunt: 00:29:27I've never been - is "spotlight" a big deal?Darren Kuropatwa: 00:29:35Just learning ...Bud Hunt: 00:29:36or just a fancy way of saying "longer"?Jeff Utecht: 00:29:38sent file "TP.pptx" to members of this chatDarren Kuropatwa: 00:29:45Spotlight means they wave the conf fees.Bud Hunt: 00:29:56ooohhhh I'm for that.Jeff Utecht: 00:29:59Me tooJeff Utecht: 00:30:01OKJeff Utecht: 00:30:05seeing that I have you all hereChris Lehmann: 00:30:07yeah... I'm trying to get my trip paid for this year by either Apple or the company that does our wireless. :)Jeff Utecht: 00:30:12I'm gonna use yaJeff Utecht: 00:30:19a file from ShanghaiChris Lehmann: 00:30:20heh.Jeff Utecht: 00:30:23This is the tech plan for my schoolDarren Kuropatwa: 00:30:25I'm trying to swing something between my school and my school division.Jeff Utecht: 00:30:32I've been planning for the past two daysBud Hunt: 00:30:39My district's paying, now that I work downtown.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:30:47What's a .ppst(?) file/Bud Hunt: 00:30:54it's a vista powerpointBud Hunt: 00:31:01I might not be able to open it -Jeff Utecht: 00:31:03crap...wrong oneChris Lehmann: 00:31:04well, given that we just got our budget altered due to extra students, I can pay for it w/ SLA funds.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:31:11pptx it was.Chris Lehmann: 00:31:13Wow... it opened in Keynote.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:31:23I'll try that.Jeff Utecht: 00:31:29sent file "TP.ppt" to members of this chatJeff Utecht: 00:31:34here you goJeff Utecht: 00:31:38this one is in PPT 2003Jeff Utecht: 00:31:42the other one was in 2007Chris Lehmann: 00:31:42Does it matter which one I open?Jeff Utecht: 00:31:57noJeff Utecht: 00:32:04just one is 2007 and the other 2003Darren Kuropatwa: 00:32:10It's opening now.Bud Hunt: 00:32:11why am I always so unlucky when it comes to skype downloadsChris Lehmann: 00:32:15o.k. -- before we all tackle your tech plan...Jeff Utecht: 00:32:22So what am I missing....give it to meJeff Utecht: 00:32:30again there is a 25 page doc that goes with thisChris Lehmann: 00:32:32Just the start of an idea...Chris Lehmann: 00:32:45What are you missing? From what you told me, I'd kill for this. :)Jeff Utecht: 00:32:45this is just the PPT for the Admin...I still think it's too much infoDarren Kuropatwa: 00:32:46Keynote won't open it, tryiong for pptJeff Utecht: 00:32:51I hate bullets!Bud Hunt: 00:32:54I can't get it -Bud Hunt: 00:33:01but Jeff, are you going to be at NECC next year?Jeff Utecht: 00:33:09I'm hoping to beJeff Utecht: 00:33:19I'd love to presentDarren Kuropatwa: 00:33:25SO we going to do a spotlight panel or waht?Chris Lehmann: 00:33:30o.k. -- how many folks could we reasonably have on a panel? Five? Six?Bud Hunt: 00:33:40let's go for it. How long are the sessions?Darren Kuropatwa: 00:33:59I think 6 might be the upper limit. How was it in China Jeff? Didn't you have 8?Jeff Utecht: 00:34:31Yeah...8 was toughBud Hunt: 00:34:33six is a big panel -Bud Hunt: 00:34:42i wouldn't want to do more than thatChris Lehmann: 00:34:44yeah... and it's not like any of us are quiet. :)Jeff Utecht: 00:34:50but the use of Twitter was really cool as a way to through thoughts around and questions form the audienceChris Lehmann: 00:34:54O.k. -- let me rephrase... it's not like *I* am quiet. :)Bud Hunt: 00:34:55I'm very quiet.Bud Hunt: 00:35:01shh. . .Jeff Utecht: 00:35:18I think 6 is the limitBud Hunt: 00:35:18so - steps?Bud Hunt: 00:35:24someone already start the google doc?Darren Kuropatwa: 00:35:26I would definitely want to incorporate a live element with folks in from afar.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:35:37twittercamp, chatcsting, and more(?)Jeff Utecht: 00:35:43YeahChris Lehmann: 00:35:49model the way we learn, yeah.Jeff Utecht: 00:35:50that is way I was playing with wiziqJeff Utecht: 00:35:57I want to use it for all my sessions coming upBud Hunt: 00:35:59I'm not opposed. Actually - we might could even stage a just in time event of some kind - send some folks off to do something and have them come back and report?Darren Kuropatwa: 00:36:01Nah, Chris, we all talk a lot ;-)Bud Hunt: 00:36:01or too hokey?Jeff Utecht: 00:36:07have people be able to join from afarDarren Kuropatwa: 00:36:15I'd like to learn wiziqBud Hunt: 00:36:21me, tooChris Lehmann: 00:36:30Bud -- I think those panels go so fast... that's the only problem.Bud Hunt: 00:36:38but let's not pick the tool yet - who knows what we'll have in 9 monthsChris Lehmann: 00:36:47true that.Bud Hunt: 00:36:51yeah, you're probably right - but if we seed the group properly . . .Jeff Utecht: 00:36:53true..just letting you know what I'm up too. :)Chris Lehmann: 00:36:58hee hee...Darren Kuropatwa: 00:37:07I think we get an hour. VEry short period of time dto do something with depth. Have ot orcghestrate iot carefully to pull of significant impact.Bud Hunt: 00:37:22says the tango master.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:37:28he heh hehJeff Utecht: 00:37:30I think we either have to pick a themeBud Hunt: 00:37:32You'll have your egg timer, right?Darren Kuropatwa: 00:37:39I've got 4 now.Jeff Utecht: 00:37:41or have a question we are batting aroundChris Lehmann: 00:37:51Jeff -- "The Learning Network -- Personal Professional Development"Darren Kuropatwa: 00:37:57Yeah, Jeff. We should make it very focused.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:38:03That's a good one.Jeff Utecht: 00:38:09I like thatJeff Utecht: 00:38:16personal learning networksDarren Kuropatwa: 00:38:18Let's use the tools of our network to underscore the pojnt live.Jeff Utecht: 00:38:22we all talk about oursChris Lehmann: 00:38:23I think a group of us talking about how blogs, twitter, etc... have changed our practice and therefore changed our schools is an amazing topic.Jeff Utecht: 00:38:25how we use themJeff Utecht: 00:38:26what we useChris Lehmann: 00:38:27Yep.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:38:39We should archive this chat .... just in case we want to reference the way this is coming about.Bud Hunt: 00:38:40um - is this a workshop and not a presentation?Chris Lehmann: 00:38:41(I need gmail accounts to add you all, btw...)Bud Hunt: 00:38:46budtheteacher@gmail.comDarren Kuropatwa: 00:38:54dkuropatwa@gmail.comJeff Utecht: 00:39:00jutecht@gmail.comBud Hunt: 00:39:07Workshop—3-, 6-, and 12-hour presentations featuring a more focused, in-depth exploration of content. Enrollment is limited and preregistration and additional fees are required. Hands-on—participants are actively engaged with computers or other equipment (e.g., iPods, digital cameras, GPS units) as the primary focus of the workshop. Seminar/Demo—primarily delivered in a demonstration, panel discussion, or lecture format with some activity-based content.Bud Hunt: 00:39:12(from the proposal form)Bud Hunt: 00:39:30formatting didn't carryover - two types - hands on and seminarBud Hunt: 00:39:35we could go either way on thatJeff Utecht: 00:39:53yeahDarren Kuropatwa: 00:40:02the 4 of us do a hand-on after putting it together remotely and meeting f2f for the 1st time at NECC.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:40:04Cool.Jeff Utecht: 00:40:14If we did a six hour could we not do bothJeff Utecht: 00:40:18talk about the network tooksJeff Utecht: 00:40:21toolsChris Lehmann: 00:40:39six hours is looooong. Although, with all of us, we'd be o.k.Jeff Utecht: 00:40:41and then help people set them up, use them, and start to connect to their "Just in time personal network"Darren Kuropatwa: 00:40:42Well, Bud and I shook hands a ferw weeks back, and Chris we met just before But I haven't shakebn your hand yet Jeff. ;-)Bud Hunt: 00:40:56but chris met jeff, so the circle's complete.Bud Hunt: 00:40:59I think six is long.Jeff Utecht: 00:41:03(handshake)Bud Hunt: 00:41:07but three - now that's a magic number.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:41:10Ah, right you are mufasa.Chris Lehmann: 00:41:19hee hee...Darren Kuropatwa: 00:41:212x3=6Jeff Utecht: 00:41:29such a math teacherDarren Kuropatwa: 00:41:34:DDarren Kuropatwa: 00:41:42Nah, Just singing, Jack Johnson.Chris Lehmann: 00:41:52o.k. -- so hardest question... who else?Darren Kuropatwa: 00:42:05@Jeff (handshake) Darren Kuropatwa: 00:42:10Cool I diden;t know about that one.Chris Lehmann: 00:42:23what key combination is that? :)Darren Kuropatwa: 00:42:33( handshake ) w/out spacesJeff Utecht: 00:42:36"Just in time personal networks" a panel discussion on how these new just in time networks are changing how both educatorsa and students learn real skills in a just in time enviornmentJeff Utecht: 00:42:56My favorite (mooning)Chris Lehmann: 00:43:06oh lordy. We're clearly going to get a lot done. :)Darren Kuropatwa: 00:43:23Maybe wwe shopuld focus on how this is change eduactors PD and how it will eventually spill over intot he classroom once teachers take a littlw ownershoip of the tech.Bud Hunt: 00:43:24 t'was your idea to add him, Chris.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:43:33:DJeff Utecht: 00:43:33Sorry I really don't know you all well enough to be using that one. ;)Bud Hunt: 00:43:34maybe our session is on learning stances.Chris Lehmann: 00:43:35Bud -- he seems so innocent in person.Chris Lehmann: 00:43:48Darren -- I really like that idea.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:44:15OK, we need to keep it tight. Focus on PD for teachers. Implications for the classroom can come at the end.Jeff Utecht: 00:44:32agree...and think implications for the classroom will grow out of the conversationDarren Kuropatwa: 00:44:34^ hours though ... y'think?Bud Hunt: 00:44:38that's exactly the focus, darrenDarren Kuropatwa: 00:44:40^=6Darren Kuropatwa: 00:44:57Do they provide water bottles? ;-)Bud Hunt: 00:45:06I think let's see what we want to get done and then figure out the timing -Darren Kuropatwa: 00:45:08Nods @JeffChris Lehmann: 00:45:15I like the idea of the personal evolution as well... the balance of synchronous and asyncronous conversations.Bud Hunt: 00:45:16but I definitely think an hour's too short.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:45:35I think 1 hour is too short too.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:45:53We should orchestrate the live visitors to underscore the content we want to discuss.Chris Lehmann: 00:45:56if it is three, then it has to be more than a panel discussion, I think.Bud Hunt: 00:46:05oh, yeah.Bud Hunt: 00:46:08definitely.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:46:09More of a guuided conversation rather than stand and deliver.Bud Hunt: 00:46:16play time.Bud Hunt: 00:46:21mucho play time.Bud Hunt: 00:46:26purposeful, of course.Jeff Utecht: 00:46:30agreeJeff Utecht: 00:46:40Just cracked open a (beer) to celebrateChris Lehmann: 00:46:41let's remember... it might be hard to bring in "experts" online... everyone we consider expert will be at the conference. :)Bud Hunt: 00:46:42perhaps some case studies thrown in, too.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:46:44I like play, but what will we have them play with ... follwo my thinking here ...Darren Kuropatwa: 00:46:55lok at what we're doing right now and how it happened ...Jeff Utecht: 00:46:59Its' 12:47....boss bought me a case and told me to stay at home and write a tech plan. :)Darren Kuropatwa: 00:47:02We have skypoe account and havce chatcastedDarren Kuropatwa: 00:47:12we have twitter account and were uyp too late/early tweetingDarren Kuropatwa: 00:47:29I love your boss, Wanna switch?Chris Lehmann: 00:47:32(sooner or later, someone is going to do a study on sleep deprivation and School 2.0 teachers.)Jeff Utecht: 00:47:33AgreeJeff Utecht: 00:47:39and not everyone we know will be thereBud Hunt: 00:47:51(I'm already signed up as a subject. Going to have to call it a night soon.)Darren Kuropatwa: 00:47:51We've got hese extended networks of connections and while the 4 of us have never worked togehteJeff Utecht: 00:47:57Or we tell those that we do know to sit in the Blogger Cafe and be on Skype and TwitterBud Hunt: 00:47:57the tools will be in the room.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:48:00we're all familiar with each other's work ...Darren Kuropatwa: 00:48:01so ...Bud Hunt: 00:48:05the exigencies will be provided by the conference.Bud Hunt: 00:48:11we'll facilitate.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:48:19how do we bring that in to a presentation for a newbie to "paly with?"Chris Lehmann: 00:48:38great question.Chris Lehmann: 00:48:42Do we model?Bud Hunt: 00:48:42share experiences, and set folks loose on a project, which we'll have time to evaluate.Bud Hunt: 00:48:47debrief, if you will.Jeff Utecht: 00:49:05We mode, we explain, we discuss, we allow them to sign up and join conversationsDarren Kuropatwa: 00:49:05OK, project work, works for a 6 hour gig.Chris Lehmann: 00:49:24We just got ambitious fast.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:49:30But we need to plan it well to keep it lively and the participants engaged.Bud Hunt: 00:49:32The shared experience in the room will be the conference - there'll be plenty there to work withDarren Kuropatwa: 00:49:366 hours is a long haul. Bud Hunt: 00:49:41and you're right, we will have to plan very carefully.Chris Lehmann: 00:49:45yeah, I'd feel more comfortable at three hours.Bud Hunt: 00:49:47and find some snacks somewhere.Bud Hunt: 00:49:52let's start with three.Bud Hunt: 00:49:58you can get a lot done in three.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:50:04Shared expedrience= right ON! But what do we wnat the "take away to be?Jeff Utecht: 00:50:05I agree 3 is goodJeff Utecht: 00:50:10and we still need to get accepted. :)Darren Kuropatwa: 00:50:18I fell better already wioth 3 hours. ;-)Bud Hunt: 00:50:43I want the take away to be that it's no longer necessary for someone to create your learning for you.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:50:46If we write a tight proposal with concrete engaging outcomes for participants we'll get accepted.Chris Lehmann: 00:50:47Here's the hard part about a take-away with this topic... the very idea of "Just In Time" learning and what we're doing makes any project / take-away that we'd do somewhat of a facile construct.Jeff Utecht: 00:50:52Take away: Personal Learning Networks are powerful professional development tools that allow for just in time learning.Bud Hunt: 00:51:12yeah, chris, you're absolutely right - it could be fake if we're not careful.Chris Lehmann: 00:51:13OH!!!!Chris Lehmann: 00:51:17That's it!!!Bud Hunt: 00:51:21but we will be and it won't be.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:51:25OK, I'm nodding loudly at everything you guys are saying.Chris Lehmann: 00:51:39O.k. -- let me see if I can explain..Darren Kuropatwa: 00:51:42I think Chris had an epiphany.Chris Lehmann: 00:51:43I'll type fast.Bud Hunt: 00:51:48you go, girl.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:51:49We'll listen.Chris Lehmann: 00:51:51--> Panel Discussion -- share experiences.Chris Lehmann: 00:52:22including case studies... Darren K. teaching my teachers... Jeff sharing WizIQ, etc...Chris Lehmann: 00:52:57Then... the live part is teaching the tools... we set up learning stations and teach a handful of tools, with examples of how we've all used them...Chris Lehmann: 00:53:28bring it back to a facilitated conversation where we ask folks what they learned, how they would use the tools... how they might bring anything back to their schools...Jeff Utecht: 00:53:49stations like an unconference where there is on beginning or end...just learning...people move from one 'statioin' to another as they need/learn tools.Chris Lehmann: 00:53:51Could even ask everyone to write a short piece about a PD workshop they would give in their own school / communities about something they've learned...Chris Lehmann: 00:54:03o.k. -- thus ends the epiphany.Chris Lehmann: 00:54:07thoughts?Bud Hunt: 00:54:14i see lots of promise there -Jeff Utecht: 00:54:25I'm liking itDarren Kuropatwa: 00:54:31OK, let's say we start with a video intro wehere we've caprtureed audio reflections of people who have learned like thisBud Hunt: 00:54:32I definitely like a concrete product at the endBud Hunt: 00:54:37as well as some examples of process.Jeff Utecht: 00:54:37Take a 3 hour session and break it into 3 1 hourish parts.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:54:48Let 's also capture audio live, a few flickr shots, and mix Bud Hunt: 00:55:06yes, darrenChris Lehmann: 00:55:09here's the thing... it's not just Just In Time... it's also this cool notion that all learn from each other now, we're all influencing each other's schools... and not just from blogging, but from real interaction.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:55:11using ... damn, y'know that new miusic video tool thing I used recnetly on my blog.Chris Lehmann: 00:55:16Darren -- yeah.Jeff Utecht: 00:55:16ask our twitter network and flash quotes from them as part of the videoDarren Kuropatwa: 00:55:24It'll take seconds to do Bud Hunt: 00:55:24animotoDarren Kuropatwa: 00:55:35Powerful live stuff with content cerated in the room live.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:55:39that's it!Darren Kuropatwa: 00:55:42Animoto.Bud Hunt: 00:55:44exactly.Bud Hunt: 00:55:50we learn. Together.Bud Hunt: 00:55:52on purpose.Chris Lehmann: 00:55:54haven't played with that yet.Chris Lehmann: 00:55:58sweet.Jeff Utecht: 00:56:11liking it...thanks for including me!Darren Kuropatwa: 00:56:16Also, create a flickr slide show and embed on ablog or wiki ... a wiki so support ongoing exploration fro anyone who wants it.Bud Hunt: 00:56:18and that's contageous. and it drives the classroom learning.Chris Lehmann: 00:56:26yep.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:56:43People love seeing pictures of them selves.Bud Hunt: 00:56:44ok - I've got to get some sleep - let's fiddle on the google doc tomorrow?Chris Lehmann: 00:56:46we can try out pieces of this on SLA faculty if we need to.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:56:48Music makes it compelling.Bud Hunt: 00:57:02I'll use chunks in the classes I teach between now and then, if that's helpful.Jeff Utecht: 00:57:04agree...gotta have the musicDarren Kuropatwa: 00:57:04Let's do it in a wiki instr4ead of a google doc.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:57:07Wiki send updatesBud Hunt: 00:57:11same difference.Chris Lehmann: 00:57:12good point.Chris Lehmann: 00:57:24Bud -- RSS is our friend.Chris Lehmann: 00:57:25:)Darren Kuropatwa: 00:57:29Everything has to have music. ;-)Jeff Utecht: 00:57:37agreedChris Lehmann: 00:57:47And we have, what, ten days?Bud Hunt: 00:57:57give or take.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:58:04I like this, let's figure it out over the next few deays and try to get something concrete together for ... whne's the deadline?Chris Lehmann: 00:58:04oy. :)Jeff Utecht: 00:58:08and we will not all meet for the first time until we're in Texas...that is part of the storyDarren Kuropatwa: 00:58:08Yikes!Bud Hunt: 00:58:11we can write this up by then. and tinker until it's time.Bud Hunt: 00:58:22golly - just lik ethe Women of web 2.Chris Lehmann: 00:58:25hee hee..Jeff Utecht: 00:58:28lOLBud Hunt: 00:58:31except we're not women.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:58:32We da men of da web. ;-)Bud Hunt: 00:58:35I think.Bud Hunt: 00:58:37okChris Lehmann: 00:58:38I go back to the other question -- do we ask a few other voices?Jeff Utecht: 00:58:41MOW 2.5Bud Hunt: 00:58:52Was typing he same question, chris.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:58:55Yeah, don;t remind me, the lawn needs one more mow.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:58:55;-)Bud Hunt: 00:58:58probablyChris Lehmann: 00:58:59Oct 3rd is the deadline.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:59:09Oy vey!Darren Kuropatwa: 00:59:18OK, let's try.Bud Hunt: 00:59:24let's fo some drafting and send an e-mail or two tomorrow.Bud Hunt: 00:59:34see where we get and who/what we might need to add.Darren Kuropatwa: 00:59:40OK.Jeff Utecht: 00:59:41sounds goodChris Lehmann: 00:59:48In the end, I think we're damned close to a proposal.Bud Hunt: 00:59:55we are - just need some details.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:00:03Do we wnat 1 or 2 more people to be part of this ... maybe we should just go with what we've got going in right now.Bud Hunt: 01:00:09we're detail people, so that shouldn't be a problem.Bud Hunt: 01:00:32Darren - I don't know. we might want a couple more - unsure until we flesh out what we're doing a bit.Jeff Utecht: 01:00:33FYI...not a detail personBud Hunt: 01:00:52dude - you helped arrange an international conference.Jeff Utecht: 01:00:55depends what 'stations' we want...what toolsBud Hunt: 01:00:58you're a detail person.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:01:03It's OK Jeff. I'm anal about presentations. We'll compliment each other. ;-)Jeff Utecht: 01:01:06we can decide that as the wiki developsmBud Hunt: 01:01:09sounds good.Jeff Utecht: 01:01:09developsBud Hunt: 01:01:13okay - really heading out nowChris Lehmann: 01:01:15heh... I'm a big picture guy.Bud Hunt: 01:01:17I'm excited, y'all.Chris Lehmann: 01:01:19take care, Bud!Darren Kuropatwa: 01:01:20Me too.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:01:24Cheers!Chris Lehmann: 01:01:26Gawd... got to love how this just developed!Darren Kuropatwa: 01:01:28Whio's making the wiki?Jeff Utecht: 01:01:32Later BudBud Hunt: 01:01:33not bad for a late night.Chris Lehmann: 01:01:38I'll whip it up now.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:01:43OK, great!Jeff Utecht: 01:01:56wikispaces pleaseDarren Kuropatwa: 01:01:58I love that I poked my nose out of my tiwitter hole and ended up here. ;-) Jeff Utecht: 01:02:00pbwikis is blocked in ChinaChris Lehmann: 01:02:05that's what I use, anyway, Jeff.Jeff Utecht: 01:02:10coolChris Lehmann: 01:02:12yeah, welcome back, Darren. :)Darren Kuropatwa: 01:02:17;DDarren Kuropatwa: 01:02:22Thanks!Bud Hunt: 01:02:24See what happens when I run into you, Darren?Chris Lehmann: 01:02:29I'm going to make it private for now, yes?Darren Kuropatwa: 01:02:30O:DBud Hunt: 01:02:36take care, everyone. talk soon.Jeff Utecht: 01:02:41LaterDarren Kuropatwa: 01:02:50I Like haveing you with me when I do presentation bBud. That goes back years already. ;-)Darren Kuropatwa: 01:02:57G'night.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:03:07Sounds good Chris.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:03:19Very cool thge way this happened. I'm saveing the chat.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:03:25I'll add it to eh wiki when it's up.Jeff Utecht: 01:03:25very coolJeff Utecht: 01:03:38but...the funny thing is I no longer find it unusual.Chris Lehmann: 01:03:47me neither.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:03:56nodding ludly again.Darren Kuropatwa: 01:04:03Trying not to wake the kids. ;-)