The+original+Skypechat+session

Bud Hunt added Darren Kuropatwa to this chat 11:27 PM Bud Hunt 11:28 PM Seems like another "just in time learning moment," doesn't it? Chris Lehmann 11:28 PM ya think? Darren Kuropatwa 11:28 PM Hi guys! Chris Lehmann 11:28 PM Mr. K -- how are you, my friend? Bud Hunt 11:28 PM been one or two of those weeks - in another month, we might be too busy to work, what with all the learning going on. Darren Kuropatwa 11:28 PM I've been drowning ... coming up for air. Chris Lehmann 11:28 PM yeah... I know that feeling. both of them. Darren Kuropatwa 11:28 PM Has it been a month? 11:28 PM yiles! Chris Lehmann 11:28 PM Bud... can you invite Jeff U.? 11:29 PM I know! Darren Kuropatwa added Jeff Utecht to this chat 11:29 PM Chris Lehmann 11:29 PM there we go. Darren Kuropatwa 11:29 PM Hiya Jeff. Bud Hunt 11:29 PM mornin' Jeff Jeff Utecht 11:29 PM Hey guys Darren Kuropatwa 11:29 PM Mornin' Chris Lehmann 11:29 PM o.k. -- aside from the fact that we're a bunch of white guys... this could be a HELL of a panel. Darren Kuropatwa 11:29 PM

Bud Hunt 11:30 PM I'm willing to change, if it'll help. Jeff Utecht 11:30 PM I'd love to do it! And you mean I'd actually get to meet Darren! Chris Lehmann 11:30 PM And yeah, there's no reason it couldn't be a spotlight panel. Darren Kuropatwa 11:30 PM I could paint my face. How does purple sound? Bud Hunt 11:30 PM I've never been - is "spotlight" a big deal? Darren Kuropatwa 11:30 PM Just learning ... Bud Hunt 11:30 PM or just a fancy way of saying "longer"? ❦ Jeff Utecht sent file "TP.pptx" to members of this chat 11:30 PM Darren Kuropatwa 11:30 PM Spotlight means they wave the conf fees. Bud Hunt 11:30 PM ooohhhh I'm for that. Jeff Utecht 11:31 PM Me too 11:31 PM OK 11:31 PM seeing that I have you all here Chris Lehmann 11:31 PM yeah... I'm trying to get my trip paid for this year by either Apple or the company that does our wireless. Jeff Utecht 11:31 PM I'm gonna use ya 11:31 PM a file from Shanghai Chris Lehmann 11:31 PM heh. Jeff Utecht 11:31 PM This is the tech plan for my school Darren Kuropatwa 11:31 PM I'm trying to swing something between my school and my school division. Jeff Utecht 11:31 PM I've been planning for the past two days Bud Hunt 11:31 PM My district's paying, now that I work downtown. Darren Kuropatwa 11:31 PM What's a .ppst(?) file/ Bud Hunt 11:31 PM it's a vista powerpoint 11:32 PM I might not be able to open it - Jeff Utecht 11:32 PM crap...wrong one Chris Lehmann 11:32 PM well, given that we just got our budget altered due to extra students, I can pay for it w/ SLA funds. Darren Kuropatwa 11:32 PM pptx it was. Chris Lehmann 11:32 PM Wow... it opened in Keynote. Darren Kuropatwa 11:32 PM I'll try that. ❦ Jeff Utecht sent file "TP.ppt" to members of this chat 11:32 PM Jeff Utecht 11:32 PM here you go 11:32 PM this one is in PPT 2003 11:32 PM the other one was in 2007 Chris Lehmann 11:32 PM Does it matter which one I open? Jeff Utecht 11:33 PM no 11:33 PM just one is 2007 and the other 2003 Darren Kuropatwa 11:33 PM It's opening now. Bud Hunt 11:33 PM why am I always so unlucky when it comes to skype downloads Chris Lehmann 11:33 PM o.k. -- before we all tackle your tech plan... Jeff Utecht 11:33 PM So what am I missing....give it to me 11:33 PM again there is a 25 page doc that goes with this Chris Lehmann 11:33 PM Just the start of an idea... 11:33 PM What are you missing? From what you told me, I'd kill for this. Jeff Utecht 11:33 PM this is just the PPT for the Admin...I still think it's too much info Darren Kuropatwa 11:33 PM Keynote won't open it, tryiong for ppt Jeff Utecht 11:33 PM I hate bullets! Bud Hunt 11:33 PM I can't get it - 11:34 PM but Jeff, are you going to be at NECC next year? Jeff Utecht 11:34 PM I'm hoping to be 11:34 PM I'd love to present Darren Kuropatwa 11:34 PM SO we going to do a spotlight panel or waht? Chris Lehmann 11:34 PM o.k. -- how many folks could we reasonably have on a panel? Five? Six? Bud Hunt 11:34 PM let's go for it. How long are the sessions? Darren Kuropatwa 11:35 PM I think 6 might be the upper limit. How was it in China Jeff? Didn't you have 8? Jeff Utecht 11:35 PM Yeah...8 was tough Bud Hunt 11:35 PM six is a big panel - 11:35 PM i wouldn't want to do more than that Chris Lehmann 11:35 PM yeah... and it's not like any of us are quiet. Jeff Utecht 11:35 PM but the use of Twitter was really cool as a way to through thoughts around and questions form the audience Chris Lehmann 11:35 PM O.k. -- let me rephrase... it's not like *I* am quiet. Bud Hunt 11:35 PM I'm very quiet. 11:36 PM shh. . . Jeff Utecht 11:36 PM I think 6 is the limit Bud Hunt 11:36 PM so - steps? 11:36 PM someone already start the google doc? Darren Kuropatwa 11:36 PM I would definitely want to incorporate a live element with folks in from afar. 11:36 PM twittercamp, chatcsting, and more(?) Jeff Utecht 11:36 PM Yeah Chris Lehmann 11:36 PM model the way we learn, yeah. Jeff Utecht 11:36 PM that is way I was playing with wiziq 11:36 PM I want to use it for all my sessions coming up Bud Hunt 11:37 PM I'm not opposed. Actually - we might could even stage a just in time event of some kind - send some folks off to do something and have them come back and report? Darren Kuropatwa 11:37 PM Nah, Chris, we all talk a lot Bud Hunt 11:37 PM or too hokey? Jeff Utecht 11:37 PM have people be able to join from afar Darren Kuropatwa 11:37 PM I'd like to learn wiziq Bud Hunt 11:37 PM me, too Chris Lehmann 11:37 PM Bud -- I think those panels go so fast... that's the only problem. Bud Hunt 11:37 PM but let's not pick the tool yet - who knows what we'll have in 9 months Chris Lehmann 11:37 PM true that. Bud Hunt 11:37 PM yeah, you're probably right - but if we seed the group properly. . . Jeff Utecht 11:37 PM true..just letting you know what I'm up too. Chris Lehmann 11:38 PM hee hee... Darren Kuropatwa 11:38 PM I think we get an hour. VEry short period of time dto do something with depth. Have ot orcghestrate iot carefully to pull of significant impact. Bud Hunt 11:38 PM says the tango master. Darren Kuropatwa 11:38 PM he heh heh Jeff Utecht 11:38 PM I think we either have to pick a theme Bud Hunt 11:38 PM You'll have your egg timer, right? Darren Kuropatwa 11:38 PM I've got 4 now. Jeff Utecht 11:38 PM or have a question we are batting around Chris Lehmann 11:38 PM Jeff -- "The Learning Network -- Personal Professional Development" Darren Kuropatwa 11:39 PM Yeah, Jeff. We should make it very focused. 11:39 PM That's a good one. Jeff Utecht 11:39 PM I like that 11:39 PM personal learning networks Darren Kuropatwa 11:39 PM Let's use the tools of our network to underscore the pojnt live. Jeff Utecht 11:39 PM we all talk about ours Chris Lehmann 11:39 PM I think a group of us talking about how blogs, twitter, etc... have changed our practice and therefore changed our schools is an amazing topic. Jeff Utecht 11:39 PM how we use them 11:39 PM what we use Chris Lehmann 11:39 PM Yep. Darren Kuropatwa 11:39 PM We should archive this chat .... just in case we want to reference the way this is coming about. Bud Hunt 11:39 PM um - is this a workshop and not a presentation? Chris Lehmann 11:39 PM (I need gmail accounts to add you all, btw...) Bud Hunt 11:39 PM budtheteacher@gmail.com Darren Kuropatwa 11:39 PM dkuropatwa@gmail.com Jeff Utecht 11:40 PM jutecht@gmail.com Bud Hunt 11:40 PM Workshop—3-, 6-, and 12-hour presentations featuring a more focused, in-depth exploration of content. Enrollment is limited and preregistration and additional fees are required. Hands-on—participants are actively engaged with computers or other equipment (e.g., iPods, digital cameras, GPS units) as the primary focus of the workshop. Seminar/Demo—primarily delivered in a demonstration, panel discussion, or lecture format with some activity-based content. 11:40 PM (from the proposal form) 11:40 PM formatting didn't carryover - two types - hands on and seminar 11:40 PM we could go either way on that Jeff Utecht 11:40 PM yeah Darren Kuropatwa 11:41 PM the 4 of us do a hand-on after putting it together remotely and meeting f2f for the 1st time at NECC. 11:41 PM Cool. Jeff Utecht 11:41 PM If we did a six hour could we not do both 11:41 PM talk about the network tooks 11:41 PM tools Chris Lehmann 11:41 PM six hours is looooong. Although, with all of us, we'd be o.k. Jeff Utecht 11:41 PM and then help people set them up, use them, and start to connect to their "Just in time personal network" Darren Kuropatwa 11:41 PM Well, Bud and I shook hands a ferw weeks back, and Chris we met just before But I haven't shakebn your hand yet Jeff. Bud Hunt 11:41 PM but chris met jeff, so the circle's complete. 11:42 PM I think six is long. Jeff Utecht 11:42 PM

Bud Hunt 11:42 PM but three - now that's a magic number. Darren Kuropatwa 11:42 PM Ah, right you are mufasa. Chris Lehmann 11:42 PM hee hee... Darren Kuropatwa 11:42 PM 2x3=6 Jeff Utecht 11:42 PM such a math teacher Darren Kuropatwa 11:42 PM

11:42 PM Nah, Just singing, Jack Johnson. Chris Lehmann 11:42 PM o.k. -- so hardest question... who else? Darren Kuropatwa 11:43 PM @Jeff 11:43 PM Cool I diden;t know about that one. Chris Lehmann 11:43 PM what key combination is that? Darren Kuropatwa 11:43 PM ( handshake ) w/out spaces Jeff Utecht 11:43 PM "Just in time personal networks" a panel discussion on how these new just in time networks are changing how both educatorsa and students learn real skills in a just in time enviornment 11:43 PM My favorite Chris Lehmann 11:44 PM oh lordy. We're clearly going to get a lot done. Darren Kuropatwa 11:44 PM Maybe wwe shopuld focus on how this is change eduactors PD and how it will eventually spill over intot he classroom once teachers take a littlw ownershoip of the tech. Bud Hunt 11:44 PM t'was your idea to add him, Chris. Darren Kuropatwa 11:44 PM

Jeff Utecht 11:44 PM Sorry I really don't know you all well enough to be using that one. Bud Hunt 11:44 PM maybe our session is on learning stances. Chris Lehmann 11:44 PM Bud -- he seems so innocent in person. 11:44 PM Darren -- I really like that idea. Darren Kuropatwa 11:45 PM OK, we need to keep it tight. Focus on PD for teachers. Implications for the classroom can come at the end. Jeff Utecht 11:45 PM agree...and think implications for the classroom will grow out of the conversation Darren Kuropatwa 11:45 PM ^ hours though ... y'think? Bud Hunt 11:45 PM that's exactly the focus, darren Darren Kuropatwa 11:45 PM ^=6 11:46 PM Do they provide water bottles? Bud Hunt 11:46 PM I think let's see what we want to get done and then figure out the timing - Darren Kuropatwa 11:46 PM Nods @Jeff Chris Lehmann 11:46 PM I like the idea of the personal evolution as well... the balance of synchronous and asyncronous conversations. Bud Hunt 11:46 PM but I definitely think an hour's too short. Darren Kuropatwa 11:46 PM I think 1 hour is too short too. 11:46 PM We should orchestrate the live visitors to underscore the content we want to discuss. Chris Lehmann 11:46 PM if it is three, then it has to be more than a panel discussion, I think. Bud Hunt 11:47 PM oh, yeah. 11:47 PM definitely. Darren Kuropatwa 11:47 PM More of a guuided conversation rather than stand and deliver. Bud Hunt 11:47 PM play time. 11:47 PM mucho play time. 11:47 PM purposeful, of course. Jeff Utecht 11:47 PM agree Chris Lehmann 11:47 PM let's remember... it might be hard to bring in "experts" online... everyone we consider expert will be at the conference. Jeff Utecht 11:47 PM Just cracked open a to celebrate Bud Hunt 11:47 PM perhaps some case studies thrown in, too. Darren Kuropatwa 11:47 PM I like play, but what will we have them play with ... follwo my thinking here ... 11:47 PM lok at what we're doing right now and how it happened ... Jeff Utecht 11:48 PM Its' 12:47....boss bought me a case and told me to stay at home and write a tech plan. Darren Kuropatwa 11:48 PM We have skypoe account and havce chatcasted 11:48 PM we have twitter account and were uyp too late/early tweeting 11:48 PM I love your boss, Wanna switch? Chris Lehmann 11:48 PM (sooner or later, someone is going to do a study on sleep deprivation and School 2.0 teachers.) Jeff Utecht 11:48 PM Agree 11:48 PM and not everyone we know will be there Bud Hunt 11:48 PM (I'm already signed up as a subject. Going to have to call it a night soon.) Darren Kuropatwa 11:48 PM We've got hese extended networks of connections and while the 4 of us have never worked togehte Jeff Utecht 11:48 PM Or we tell those that we do know to sit in the Blogger Cafe and be on Skype and Twitter Bud Hunt 11:48 PM the tools will be in the room. Darren Kuropatwa 11:49 PM we're all familiar with each other's work ... 11:49 PM so ... Bud Hunt 11:49 PM the exigencies will be provided by the conference. 11:49 PM we'll facilitate. Darren Kuropatwa 11:49 PM how do we bring that in to a presentation for a newbie to "paly with?" Chris Lehmann 11:49 PM great question. 11:49 PM Do we model? Bud Hunt 11:49 PM share experiences, and set folks loose on a project, which we'll have time to evaluate. 11:49 PM debrief, if you will. Jeff Utecht 11:50 PM We mode, we explain, we discuss, we allow them to sign up and join conversations Darren Kuropatwa 11:50 PM OK, project work, works for a 6 hour gig. Chris Lehmann 11:50 PM We just got ambitious fast. Darren Kuropatwa 11:50 PM But we need to plan it well to keep it lively and the participants engaged. Bud Hunt 11:50 PM The shared experience in the room will be the conference - there'll be plenty there to work with Darren Kuropatwa 11:50 PM 6 hours is a long haul. Bud Hunt 11:50 PM and you're right, we will have to plan very carefully. Chris Lehmann 11:50 PM yeah, I'd feel more comfortable at three hours. Bud Hunt 11:50 PM and find some snacks somewhere. 11:50 PM let's start with three. 11:51 PM you can get a lot done in three. Darren Kuropatwa 11:51 PM Shared expedrience= right ON! But what do we wnat the "take away to be? Jeff Utecht 11:51 PM I agree 3 is good 11:51 PM and we still need to get accepted. Darren Kuropatwa 11:51 PM I fell better already wioth 3 hours. Bud Hunt 11:51 PM I want the take away to be that it's no longer necessary for someone to create your learning for you. Darren Kuropatwa 11:51 PM If we write a tight proposal with concrete engaging outcomes for participants we'll get accepted. Chris Lehmann 11:51 PM Here's the hard part about a take-away with this topic... the very idea of "Just In Time" learning and what we're doing makes any project / take-away that we'd do somewhat of a facile construct. Jeff Utecht 11:51 PM Take away: Personal Learning Networks are powerful professional development tools that allow for just in time learning. Bud Hunt 11:52 PM yeah, chris, you're absolutely right - it could be fake if we're not careful. Chris Lehmann 11:52 PM OH!!!! 11:52 PM That's it!!! Bud Hunt 11:52 PM but we will be and it won't be. Darren Kuropatwa 11:52 PM OK, I'm nodding loudly at everything you guys are saying. Chris Lehmann 11:52 PM O.k. -- let me see if I can explain.. Darren Kuropatwa 11:52 PM I think Chris had an epiphany. Chris Lehmann 11:52 PM I'll type fast. Bud Hunt 11:52 PM you go, girl. Darren Kuropatwa 11:52 PM We'll listen. Chris Lehmann 11:52 PM --> Panel Discussion -- share experiences. 11:53 PM including case studies... Darren K. teaching my teachers... Jeff sharing WizIQ, etc... 11:53 PM Then... the live part is teaching the tools... we set up learning stations and teach a handful of tools, with examples of how we've all used them... 11:54 PM bring it back to a facilitated conversation where we ask folks what they learned, how they would use the tools... how they might bring anything back to their schools... Jeff Utecht 11:54 PM stations like an unconference where there is on beginning or end...just learning...people move from one 'statioin' to another as they need/learn tools. Chris Lehmann 11:54 PM Could even ask everyone to write a short piece about a PD workshop they would give in their own school / communities about something they've learned... 11:55 PM o.k. -- thus ends the epiphany. 11:55 PM thoughts? Bud Hunt 11:55 PM i see lots of promise there - Jeff Utecht 11:55 PM I'm liking it Darren Kuropatwa 11:55 PM OK, let's say we start with a video intro wehere we've caprtureed audio reflections of people who have learned like this Bud Hunt 11:55 PM I definitely like a concrete product at the end 11:55 PM as well as some examples of process. Jeff Utecht 11:55 PM Take a 3 hour session and break it into 3 1 hourish parts. Darren Kuropatwa 11:55 PM Let 's also capture audio live, a few flickr shots, and mix Bud Hunt 11:56 PM yes, darren Chris Lehmann 11:56 PM here's the thing... it's not just Just In Time... it's also this cool notion that all learn from each other now, we're all influencing each other's schools... and not just from blogging, but from real interaction. Darren Kuropatwa 11:56 PM using ... damn, y'know that new miusic video tool thing I used recnetly on my blog. Chris Lehmann 11:56 PM Darren -- yeah. Jeff Utecht 11:56 PM ask our twitter network and flash quotes from them as part of the video Darren Kuropatwa 11:56 PM It'll take seconds to do Bud Hunt 11:56 PM animoto Darren Kuropatwa 11:56 PM Powerful live stuff with content cerated in the room live. 11:56 PM that's it! 11:56 PM Animoto. Bud Hunt 11:56 PM exactly. 11:56 PM we learn. Together. 11:56 PM on purpose. Chris Lehmann 11:56 PM haven't played with that yet. 11:57 PM sweet. Jeff Utecht 11:57 PM liking it...thanks for including me! Darren Kuropatwa 11:57 PM Also, create a flickr slide show and embed on ablog or wiki ... a wiki so support ongoing exploration fro anyone who wants it. Bud Hunt 11:57 PM and that's contageous. and it drives the classroom learning. Chris Lehmann 11:57 PM yep. Darren Kuropatwa 11:57 PM People love seeing pictures of them selves. Bud Hunt 11:57 PM ok - I've got to get some sleep - let's fiddle on the google doc tomorrow? Chris Lehmann 11:57 PM we can try out pieces of this on SLA faculty if we need to. Darren Kuropatwa 11:57 PM Music makes it compelling. Bud Hunt 11:58 PM I'll use chunks in the classes I teach between now and then, if that's helpful. Jeff Utecht 11:58 PM agree...gotta have the music Darren Kuropatwa 11:58 PM Let's do it in a wiki instr4ead of a google doc. 11:58 PM Wiki send updates Bud Hunt 11:58 PM same difference. Chris Lehmann 11:58 PM good point. 11:58 PM Bud -- RSS is our friend. 11:58 PM

Darren Kuropatwa 11:58 PM Everything has to have music. Jeff Utecht 11:58 PM agreed Chris Lehmann 11:58 PM And we have, what, ten days? Bud Hunt 11:59 PM give or take. Darren Kuropatwa 11:59 PM I like this, let's figure it out over the next few deays and try to get something concrete together for ... whne's the deadline? Chris Lehmann 11:59 PM oy. Jeff Utecht 11:59 PM and we will not all meet for the first time until we're in Texas...that is part of the story Darren Kuropatwa 11:59 PM Yikes! Bud Hunt 11:59 PM we can write this up by then. and tinker until it's time. 11:59 PM golly - just lik ethe Women of web 2. Chris Lehmann 11:59 PM hee hee.. Jeff Utecht 11:59 PM lOL Bud Hunt 11:59 PM except we're not women. Darren Kuropatwa 11:59 PM We da men of da web. Bud Hunt 11:59 PM I think. 11:59 PM ok Chris Lehmann 11:59 PM I go back to the other question -- do we ask a few other voices? Jeff Utecht 11:59 PM MOW 2.5 Bud Hunt 11:59 PM Was typing he same question, chris. Darren Kuropatwa 11:59 PM Yeah, don;t remind me, the lawn needs one more mow. 11:59 PM Bud Hunt 12:00 AM probably Chris Lehmann 12:00 AM Oct 3rd is the deadline. Darren Kuropatwa 12:00 AM Oy vey! 12:00 AM OK, let's try. Bud Hunt 12:00 AM let's fo some drafting and send an e-mail or two tomorrow. 12:00 AM see where we get and who/what we might need to add. Darren Kuropatwa 12:00 AM OK. Jeff Utecht 12:00 AM sounds good Chris Lehmann 12:00 AM In the end, I think we're damned close to a proposal. Bud Hunt 12:00 AM we are - just need some details. Darren Kuropatwa 12:01 AM Do we wnat 1 or 2 more people to be part of this ... maybe we should just go with what we've got going in right now. Bud Hunt 12:01 AM we're detail people, so that shouldn't be a problem. 12:01 AM Darren - I don't know. we might want a couple more - unsure until we flesh out what we're doing a bit. Jeff Utecht 12:01 AM FYI...not a detail person Bud Hunt 12:01 AM dude - you helped arrange an international conference. Jeff Utecht 12:01 AM depends what 'stations' we want...what tools Bud Hunt 12:02 AM you're a detail person. Darren Kuropatwa 12:02 AM It's OK Jeff. I'm anal about presentations. We'll compliment each other. Jeff Utecht 12:02 AM we can decide that as the wiki developsm Bud Hunt 12:02 AM sounds good. Jeff Utecht 12:02 AM develops Bud Hunt 12:02 AM okay - really heading out now Chris Lehmann 12:02 AM heh... I'm a big picture guy. Bud Hunt 12:02 AM I'm excited, y'all. Chris Lehmann 12:02 AM take care, Bud! Darren Kuropatwa 12:02 AM Me too. 12:02 AM Cheers! Chris Lehmann 12:02 AM Gawd... got to love how this just developed! Darren Kuropatwa 12:02 AM Whio's making the wiki? Jeff Utecht 12:02 AM Later Bud Bud Hunt 12:02 AM not bad for a late night. Chris Lehmann 12:02 AM I'll whip it up now. Darren Kuropatwa 12:02 AM OK, great! Jeff Utecht 12:02 AM wikispaces please Darren Kuropatwa 12:03 AM I love that I poked my nose out of my tiwitter hole and ended up here. Jeff Utecht 12:03 AM pbwikis is blocked in China Chris Lehmann 12:03 AM that's what I use, anyway, Jeff. Jeff Utecht 12:03 AM cool Chris Lehmann 12:03 AM yeah, welcome back, Darren. Darren Kuropatwa 12:03 AM 12:03 AM Thanks! Bud Hunt 12:03 AM See what happens when I run into you, Darren? Chris Lehmann 12:03 AM I'm going to make it private for now, yes? Darren Kuropatwa 12:03 AM O:D Bud Hunt 12:03 AM take care, everyone. talk soon. Jeff Utecht 12:03 AM Later Darren Kuropatwa 12:03 AM I Like haveing you with me when I do presentation bBud. That goes back years already. 12:03 AM G'night. 12:04 AM Sounds good Chris. 12:04 AM Very cool thge way this happened. I'm saveing the chat. 12:04 AM I'll add it to eh wiki when it's up. Jeff Utecht 12:04 AM very cool 12:04 AM but...the funny thing is I no longer find it unusual. Chris Lehmann 12:04 AM me neither. Darren Kuropatwa 12:04 AM nodding ludly again. 12:05 AM Trying not to wake the kids. 12:05 AM ludly=loudly Jeff Utecht 12:05 AM What time Darren? Darren Kuropatwa 12:05 AM 12:05 am Chris Lehmann 12:05 AM http://justintimelearning.wikispaces.com/ Jeff Utecht 12:05 AM 1:05pm Darren Kuropatwa 12:05 AM Excellent! Chris Lehmann 12:05 AM 1:05 am Darren Kuropatwa 12:05 AM Go to bed Chris! Chris Lehmann 12:05 AM heh... I am. 12:05 AM Just a few more emails to answer. Jeff Utecht 12:05 AM You are in bed...now that's bad Darren Kuropatwa 12:06 AM Have I mentioned how invigourating this all is? Chris Lehmann 12:06 AM going... not in. Kat would kill me. Darren Kuropatwa 12:06 AM So, we've all been in bed with Chris, just not in the same room ... is that what web 2.0 is? Chris Lehmann 12:06 AM Oh lordy. 12:07 AM Now THAT would be an interesting panel! Darren Kuropatwa 12:07 AM Oh. Glad to hear. Scrtch my last comment. Chris Lehmann 12:07 AM Just a big mattress... Darren Kuropatwa 12:07 AM The big comfy couch. Chris Lehmann 12:07 AM heh Jeff Utecht 12:07 AM LOL Darren Kuropatwa 12:07 AM OK, for real this time. Cheers! Jeff Utecht 12:07 AM Later 12:07 AM I'll start putting stuff in the wiki if you accept my joining Chirs 12:08 AM It's only 1pm here 12:08 AM I can add the NECC outline for the form 12:08 AM so we can start working on that Chris Lehmann 12:08 AM cool... will do. 12:08 AM you're in. Jeff Utecht 12:08 AM I'll copy this chat to a page as well so we have it as a record 12:08 AM or is your chat more complete...you guys were talking about this before I came in. Chris Lehmann 12:09 AM Jeff -- might be a little more complete. I'll throw it up. Darren Kuropatwa 12:09 AM I'll grab it. 12:09 AM OK, Chris has it. Jeff Utecht 12:09 AM cool 12:10 AM So I went from racking my brain around what I could present...to being on a panel of a very cool workshop...crazy! Chris Lehmann 12:11 AM I think we all were having the same problem. Darren Kuropatwa 12:11 AM OK, I know I said g'night but I'm juiced. 12:11 AM I went from idly thinking about maybe making a proposal to necc to being in the middle of this very cool adventure. Jeff Utecht 12:12 AM Me too..so I'm done with the tech plan for the day...new focus. Chris Lehmann 12:12 AM heh... Darren Kuropatwa 12:12 AM
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Chris Lehmann 12:12 AM I'm throwing up the "elevator pitch." Edit as need be. 12:13 AM What started as a loose affiliation of blogging educators continues to evolve as educators use tools such as twitter, Skype, WizIQ and more to interact and learn from each other. This three-hour workshop will be broken down into a panel discussion as these educators talk about how the learning network has changed their learning and their practice, a hands-on session to teach several of these new communication tools, and a planning session for participants to work on a proposal for how they could bring these ideas back to their school communities. Darren Kuropatwa 12:14 AM Participants will interact with a global community of educators, live, while in session, and ... Chris Lehmann 12:14 AM yeah... edit, please. Jeff Utecht 12:14 AM Would this fall in the BYOL category Chris Lehmann 12:15 AM yes. Jeff Utecht 12:15 AM we want people there with computers right? Chris Lehmann 12:15 AM ugh. Formatting of the chat came out terrible. Darren Kuropatwa 12:15 AM create eveidence of their learning within minutes of getting their hands on the tools. 12:15 AM Yeah, that happens. 12:15 AM Laptops would be a definite advantage. People wiothout would feel ... left out. Chris Lehmann 12:15 AM just uploading the file instead. Jeff Utecht 12:16 AM Under workshop they only give us Hands-on or seminaor/demo 12:17 AM So we need to make sure we state that this is a BYOL workshop? Chris Lehmann 12:17 AM or include language like "Participants are strongly encouraged to BYOL." 12:17 AM When I did David W.'s session w/ him, it was in a computer lab. Jeff Utecht 12:17 AM Why do they not have an unconference category...again NECC misses an opportunity. Darren Kuropatwa 12:18 AM Let's push the envelope. Let's create a mashup event. Jeff Utecht 12:18 AM So did I hear right that if we get accepted they pay for our registration? Darren Kuropatwa 12:18 AM Yes, if it's a spotlight presentation. Chris Lehmann 12:19 AM I have no idea how to make it a spotlight... do we apply for it? Or do we just ask Will to join us. Darren Kuropatwa 12:19 AM We need to apply for a spotlight session. I wonder if that has different constraints. 12:19 AM Asking Will would be a quick way to do that ... or David. Chris Lehmann 12:20 AM Woah... see what's going on on twitter now? 12:20 AM Other folks are now thinking about their own panels... one more example of how this stuff is viral and powerful. Darren Kuropatwa 12:21 AM We're one of three panels coming out of twitter tionight. Yikes! Jeff Utecht 12:21 AM very cool Darren Kuropatwa 12:22 AM Maybe we should invite David Jakes or iJohn .... then it'll really go viral. Chris Lehmann 12:22 AM hee hee... true. 12:23 AM speaking of viral... I can only hope that EduCon goes as viral as Learning 2.0 and K12Online have gone. Wow, you two. Jeff Utecht 12:23 AM Yeah...djakes and ijohn I think are both good people for this panel Darren Kuropatwa 12:23 AM That would make us 6. 12:23 AM It's amagic number. Chris Lehmann 12:23 AM agreed... although, I'd love to find at least one non-white-guy. Darren Kuropatwa 12:23 AM That'll be the music! 12:23 AM OK, I'll paint myself purple. Chris Lehmann 12:23 AM hee hee... Jeff Utecht 12:23 AM I've got a girl that might be interested Chris Lehmann 12:23 AM Kim? Jeff Utecht 12:23 AM do you know Kim Cofino Darren Kuropatwa 12:23 AM Is she purple? Jeff Utecht 12:23 AM

Chris Lehmann 12:24 AM Kim rocks. Darren Kuropatwa 12:24 AM IShe's in my twitter ntwork. 12:24 AM Always made a positive impression but don't know her well. Chris Lehmann 12:24 AM yeah... never met her. Only emailed. Jeff Utecht 12:24 AM Met her for the first time at Learning 2.0...the real deal...I think 12:25 AM She's in Bangkok Chris Lehmann 12:25 AM Marcie would always be into doing it too... although I'm pushing her step out and submit stuff separate from me. Darren Kuropatwa 12:25 AM SHall we make a sort list and take it up with Bud tomorrow? I wouldn't want to decide w/out him. 12:25 AM sort=short Chris Lehmann 12:25 AM yes. Darren Kuropatwa 12:26 AM I like the global connection. Chris Lehmann 12:26 AM yeah, don't need two folks from the same school. Darren Kuropatwa 12:26 AM We can also include these folks in the live component. Jeff Utecht 12:26 AM me too I think the global connection is a piece of it. Darren Kuropatwa 12:26 AM Terry Freedman would be a good addtion too. 12:26 AM He's a white guy, but he's from England. Chris Lehmann 12:26 AM Terry would be fun to have there, although, there's something cool about having everyone on the panel be in a school. Jeff Utecht 12:27 AM Did we come up with a Title...I'll add some to the form an we can vote? Darren Kuropatwa 12:27 AM That works. Chris Lehmann 12:27 AM here's what I've got right now... again, edit as need be: Edit This Page "The Learning Network -- Just In Time Learning, Personal Professional Development and the Global Community" Jeff Utecht 12:28 AM Are you guys putting in personal sessions too or is this it? Chris Lehmann 12:28 AM by the way... in my never-ending quest to pack SLA full of edu-bloggers, we hired Zac Chase to fill the space of the teacher who left two weeks ago. Darren Kuropatwa 12:28 AM I like that Jeff. 12:29 AM How about : Just In Time: The Human Network. 12:29 AM Ths wiould likely be it for me. I wont; have time to make another proposal. Chris Lehmann 12:29 AM I've been asked to be on a 1:1 panel, we're talking to Apple about bringing kids for a presentation, and I think I may put one more about Progressive Pedagogy and 21st Century Learning. Darren Kuropatwa 12:29 AM Mazel Tov! Chris Lehmann 12:29 AM Darren -- thanks! And great title. Jeff Utecht 12:30 AM Like that..short and sweet Darren Kuropatwa 12:30 AM Thanks! Chris Lehmann 12:30 AM He's the math teacher. I'm the English teacher. Guess who is wordier. Darren Kuropatwa 12:31 AM What is it exactly that you are trying to imply or suggest by writting that down on the sdcreen for all of us rto read my Leahmann? 12:31 AM my=Mr. Jeff Utecht 12:31 AM Strand and theme: 21st-Century Teaching & Learning covers all aspects of technology use in the learning environment, and includes strands such as: Chris Lehmann 12:31 AM that I'm waaaaaaaay too wordy. Darren Kuropatwa 12:31 AM

12:32 AM Jeff's bringing us back in line. Jeff Utecht 12:32 AM Or 12:32 AM Professional Learning focuses on the development of leaders and the education and accountability of students, teachers, administrators, and other educators, and includes strands such as: Darren Kuropatwa 12:32 AM The strands aren't coming through. 12:32 AM I think we're looking at a PD flavour. Jeff Utecht 12:32 AM sorry didn't post the strands Darren Kuropatwa 12:32 AM SOmething for teachers. Chris Lehmann 12:33 AM http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2008/program/themes.php Darren Kuropatwa 12:33 AM Thanks. Chris Lehmann 12:33 AM I think this is PD, I agree. Jeff Utecht 12:33 AM OK PD strands: * Administrative Development Chris Lehmann 12:33 AM totally PD. Jeff Utecht 12:34 AM I don't know...I think I like the 21st Century Teaching and Learning and the strand Web/Internet/Web 2.0 12:34 AM Or Innovative Learning Technologies Darren Kuropatwa 12:34 AM These are all a good fit: * Instructional & Administrative Productivity Tools/Resources 12:34 AM Innovative Learnig Technologies also sounds good. Jeff Utecht 12:34 AM So we just put ALL Chris Lehmann 12:34 AM well, the thing is that they totally cross-over. 12:34 AM sounds good to me. Darren Kuropatwa 12:35 AM Can't we apply to fit into several strands? We have a broad based appeal then I think. 12:35 AM This ideas of ours doesn't really fit in a box 12:35 AM Lots of issues/implications. Chris Lehmann 12:36 AM damn NECC and their boxes! Jeff Utecht 12:36 AM I thnk that's the problem when you try to be too scripted at a conference 12:36 AM you got allow it to flow 12:36 AM allow conversations and sessions to happen 12:37 AM stop trying to fit things in themes and strands! Darren Kuropatwa 12:37 AM Let's weave these ideas into the proposal, something along the lines of : Jeff Utecht 12:38 AM Here's what the NECC paper says: Select the one strand that best matches the content of your proposal. Each strand falls under one of six themes. Your theme will be automatically determined by the strand you select. Chris Lehmann 12:38 AM yeesh. Darren Kuropatwa 12:38 AM The solutions to problems that haven't yet been stumbled upon are like to come from the intersections of many disciplines. Jeff Utecht 12:38 AM So we only pick the strand? Chris Lehmann 12:38 AM so much for the human network... "We Will Pick Your Theme." Jeff Utecht 12:38 AM I like that...not bad for midnight thinking. Darren Kuropatwa 12:38 AM Students need to learn how to navigate the intersections of learning spaces. Jeff Utecht 12:39 AM WOW darren now I know what time of day you blog. Darren Kuropatwa 12:39 AM In order for teachers to faciliatte this learning they too need to learn how to navigate these intersections. Chris Lehmann 12:39 AM agreed... so hell, we pick a PD stream because we have to, and then we mash it up in our write up. Jeff Utecht 12:39 AM cool Darren Kuropatwa 12:39 AM This is a panal/presentation/workshop exploring the interesection of various domain of teaching practice and professional development. Chris Lehmann 12:40 AM great way to end with that, darren. Darren Kuropatwa 12:40 AM Yeah, I start writing well when I can't see what I'm saying anymore. Chris Lehmann 12:41 AM "I'm blind, but I'm brilliant!" Darren Kuropatwa 12:41 AM
 * Instructional & Administrative Productivity Tools/Resources
 * Online Professional Development
 * Professional Development
 * Student, Teacher, and/or Administrator Leader Preparation
 * Teacher Education (Preservice & Advanced)
 * Online Professional Development
 * Student, Teacher, and/or Administrator Leader Preparation
 * Teacher Education (Preservice & Advanced)

Chris Lehmann 12:41 AM o.k. -- really off to sleep. Night all. Darren Kuropatwa 12:41 AM Nah, I'm a monkey who just keeps hitting the keyboard. Jeff Utecht 12:41 AM Night Chris! 12:41 AM LOL Darren Kuropatwa 12:42 AM Night Chris. Afternoon JHeff. Jeff Utecht 12:42 AM

Darren Kuropatwa 12:42 AM Reall have to call it wuits now. I'm going to have a hard time sleeping after this. 12:42 AM Thanks Jeff! 12:42 AM Cheers! Jeff Utecht 12:43 AM Thanks for including me....see ya in the network!